"Well, you learned, that's the important part. Everything I've tasted in your kitchen has been terrific. I can't do much more than spaghetti with jarred sauce. Quesadillas with rotisserie chicken from the supermarket."

She laughs, it's kind of sad how undomestic she is. She dropped the ball there, somehow.

"My fridge is full of takeout boxes instead of Tupperware."